Essendon & Craigieburn

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Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby Steamtostay » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:44 am

Essendon wrote:Platform 1 is very rarely used and is no even long enough for a six car suburban train. One train terminates at Essendon each weekday morning (arr 08:13, dep 08:23)

This train has since been altered. The Down journey has been replaced with 5225 FSS-BMS, stopping all staions. It now arrives at Essendon at 08:16. The Up journey is 5832 CGB-FSS, departing Craigieburn 0805, running express BMS-GRY-PVL-ESD.

Essendon wrote:Remaining are the three platforms, platform 1 is very rarely used these days. The only times the panel is switched in is for the one terminating Essendon trains in the mornings (weekdays) and just after 12:00pm so that the 12:00 Albury train can 'overtake' (pass) a Broadmeadows trains. (see interesting points).
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The 12:00 Albury train overtakes (passes) a Broadmeadows train at 12:10pm each weekday. The Broadmeadows train arrives in platform 3 at 12:07 and then the Albury train passes through platform 2 at 12:10 and the Broadmeadows train departs at 12:11

I can't find any reference to a 12:00 V/Line train on the line. The closest suburban departure is the 12:09 Down Craigieburn, TDN 5255.

There is no allowance in the Working Time Table for platform allocations at Essendon.

Also, signals E261, E284 and E296 are no longer semaphores.

The issue I have with Craigieburn is the out-of-date diagram. As per diagram 51'2009, Platform 1 is now long enough for a six-car train, and points 419HS, 421, 433HS and 455 and sidings 7-12 have been provided.

EDIT: Perhaps it is time to remove all references to the Broad Gauge Albury Line?
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby heisdeadjim » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:33 am

At Essendon it's all BG.

And the train to "Albury" still runs, albeit as far as Seymour at the moment.
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby Steamtostay » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:27 pm

What I meant by the last comment was, for all stations between Kensington and Seymour (BG) inclusive it might be time to change all links from "Albury Line" to "Shepparton Line" or wherever that line originally terminated.
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby heisdeadjim » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:09 am

Technically, no :p

Because that train ex SCS at 1213 is the Albury service :)

When it gets up and is running passenger trains on SG, then it'll get modified. It's still an Albury train - terminating at Seymour and bustitutued Seymour to Albury.

Think of it this way - they recently grade separated Springvale Road, right? All services from Flinders Street terminated at Blackburn. According to the WTT and TD (by and large) numbers, they were still down Lilydale / Belgrave services, albeit cut of at Blackburn.

Same applies here. It's still an Albury train, and will remain so I gather until SG services are ready to run.
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby vicsig » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:41 am

heisdeadjim wrote:Think of it this way - they recently grade separated Springvale Road, right? All services from Flinders Street terminated at Blackburn. According to the WTT and TD (by and large) numbers, they were still down Lilydale / Belgrave services, albeit cut of at Blackburn.


Normally with an occupation the trains are still the final destination, however with Springvale Road the Down trains were all running on a special timetable which had them all as Blackburn trains. the PIDs said Blackburn, the headboards said Blackburn.
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby vicsig » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:45 am

Steamtostay wrote:What I meant by the last comment was, for all stations between Kensington and Seymour (BG) inclusive it might be time to change all links from "Albury Line" to "Shepparton Line" or wherever that line originally terminated.


I have been thinking how to change Vicsig. Currently it is set up with BG to Albury, BG Seymour - Tocumwal.

First issue:
V/Line documents has it as Melbourne - Seymour and another for Seymour - Tocumwal, bit like they have to Bendigo and different sections beyond. I like to split the lines on the same information as V/Line, however I would also like just Melbourne - Tocumwal.

Second issue:
Vicsig isn't set up to handle history in the lines, so I risk loosing lots of information on the Seymour - Albury BG line, I need to do something about this, likewise I risk loosing lots of information on the Seymour - Albury SG when all the crossing loops come out.
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby Steamtostay » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:26 pm

Re: the second issue, you could take a full backup of the current website (a good idea anyway), redeisgn those pages as neccesary with current information, then work in the historical information at a later date.
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Re: Essendon & Craigieburn

Postby Bravus » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:55 am

Perhaps you may try splitting the information into a "History" sub-section?

For sections with such major upgrades and changes such as this, maybe you could look at putting a link to the previous information in as "archived data"?
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